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Anthony Chen Oct 11 2025 03:41 UTC

Thanks for the feedback, we will try to clarify the terminology in an update to avoid confusion across fields:)

Vedika Khemani Oct 10 2025 22:55 UTC

Thanks, makes sense! Maybe some other phrase then like “quite rapid mixing”? :-) Since thermalization also has a technical definition, the title could be misleading to a different community.

Anthony Chen Oct 10 2025 22:35 UTC

Hi Vedika, Thanks for the clarification! As you said, we are indeed focusing only on "mixing" in the open system/Markov chain setting. We also fully agree that our result does not apply to closed-system thermalization in the context of MBL. Perhaps a technical reason we did not explicitly say "rapid

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Vedika Khemani Oct 10 2025 20:58 UTC

“Thermalization” is a distinct concept from Gibbs state preparation / mixing. Thermalization refers to the ability of a system to bring its subsystems to thermal equilibrium under its own unitary dynamics. Rapid mixing is about the ability to prepare Gibbs states when the system is coupled to a bath

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Jacob Beckey Oct 10 2025 17:31 UTC

We adopted the naming convention used in Jones and Montanaro's but I also found it initially confusing because "bipartite product testing" actually refers to this more general question about testing states on $(\mathbb{C}^{d})^{\otimes n}$. That said, we couldn't think of a better name, so we just d

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Maximilian Rüsch Oct 10 2025 17:05 UTC

We are thinking about how to approach this best. Completeness will be a secondary goal, and an interesting starting point would be to try extending fault gadgets to non Pauli noise / generalising Pauli Boxes. After this an extension to full non-Clifford diagrams might be easier. Considering universa

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Zhenhuan Liu Oct 10 2025 16:38 UTC

Thank you Jacob! I now understand that the difference between our results is that you are considering the case where the bipartition is unknwon, while we were considering that the bipartition is known. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It is amazing that the lower bound results we derived are the same

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Jon Nelson Oct 10 2025 16:15 UTC

Thanks for your interest in the paper! The resolution is that each component of the circuit is considered to be noisy and Clifford. This means that you can not perform syndrome measurements throughout the circuit and store the results in noiseless classical memory to be post-processed at the end. In

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Jacob Beckey Oct 10 2025 16:01 UTC

Hey Zhenhuan, thank you very much for your comment. I am so sorry I overlooked your prior work. I just took a look at the first paper and, indeed, your lower bound in Theorem 2 is quite similar to our Theorem 1. However, unless I am misunderstanding your work, you were considering the case of testin

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Markus Heinrich Oct 10 2025 15:29 UTC

Nice title ;) (prepare for weird emails though)

KdV Oct 10 2025 15:21 UTC

I believe that most simulations of Clifford error correction circuits so far involve offline syndrome decoding.

Aram Harrow Oct 10 2025 15:05 UTC

Their model doesn't include fast classical processing of the syndromes.

KdV Oct 10 2025 14:27 UTC

Thanks for your response! Would running a truly non-Clifford simulation (or its proxies) lead to any additional surprises?

KdV Oct 10 2025 14:08 UTC

Are there any plans to extend this framework to include non-Clifford ZX diagrams?

KdV Oct 10 2025 13:52 UTC

Fascinating results! I’m curious how this compares to, or perhaps even contradicts, the numerous studies on Clifford error correction circuits, especially those numerically simulated to very low logical error rates, some even down to $p_{\text{logical}} = 10^{-9}$. What's the catch there? Am I missi

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Zhenhuan Liu Oct 10 2025 08:14 UTC

Very interesting work!

I hope this comment is helpful—I would like to kindly point out that in our previous study on the complexity of entanglement detection (**Phys. Rev. Research 7, 033121 (2025), Theorem 2, D2**), we explored a closely related problem, and the results seem to align with **your

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Xinzhao Wang Oct 09 2025 12:11 UTC

Hi Allan,

Thanks for reaching out, and for bringing your work to our attention.

Regarding how our methods compare, the key difference is our use of a qDRIFT-style randomization combined with extrapolation. This combination is what allows us to achieve short circuit depths, eliminating the need for

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Frank Zhang Oct 09 2025 10:55 UTC

Thanks for pointing it out! we will update it ASAP.

Allan Tosta Oct 09 2025 09:18 UTC

Congratulations on the nice paper. Your approach to randomization that allows forgoing the use of a block encoding is particularly interesting. I want to bring to your attention our paper "[Randomized semi-quantum matrix processing][1]" where we randomize the QSVT protocol by sampling from the distr

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Tongyang Li Oct 09 2025 09:00 UTC

It seems that the discussion section is incomplete - the last sentence "This is consistent with o" suddenly ends. Perhaps some sentences were omitted?

Qian Xu Oct 08 2025 18:02 UTC

thank you!

Qian Xu Oct 08 2025 17:51 UTC

Thank you for the helpful feedback! In our setup, the magic states are transferred from the small color codes into the BB code, and our simulations focus on this transfer process, which is significantly noisier than the initial states. Rather than simulating directly from magic states, we perform Cl

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Jahan Claes Oct 08 2025 13:40 UTC

Something that I found in [my own work][1] on the Floquet code (your ref 15) that was not obvious to me: If you do $d$ rounds of $(XX\rightarrow YY\rightarrow ZZ)$ measurements on the original Hastings-Haah code, you end up with a timelike distance of $3d/4$ rather than $d$. This is because, e.g., t

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KdV Oct 08 2025 11:32 UTC

Are your stim circuits open source? Appreciate it.

KdV Oct 08 2025 11:26 UTC

Interesting work! I had a question—it's not entirely clear to me what exactly is being simulated. From the appendices, it seems like the simulation involves a Clifford surrogate for logical performance rather than a full implementation of a non-Clifford scheme or a direct replacement of T gates with

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Guo Zhang Oct 08 2025 11:01 UTC

Banger, very interesting work!

Seok-Hyung Lee Oct 08 2025 02:53 UTC

Note: The [ldpc-post-selection repo](https://github.com/seokhyung-lee/ldpc-post-selection), which implements our soft-output decoder and post-selection strategies, will be made public in a few days.

Mingyu Kang Oct 08 2025 01:32 UTC

I was worried about the interface between the lattice surgery round and the memory rounds before/after it, akin to how surface code lattice surgery needs d rounds before & during & after the surgery for fault tolerance. But in this case the memory is also single shot so it seems there could be no pr

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Nouédyn Baspin Oct 07 2025 21:37 UTC

thanks a lot!

I'm not entirely sure I understand your question. The point of the fast surgery is to reduce the number of rounds of measurements from `d` to `1` fault tolerantly. Which is why we simulate a single round for that protocol and the curve shows that indeed the logical error rate remains

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Nouédyn Baspin Oct 07 2025 21:25 UTC

hahaha

Q_cat_1729 Oct 07 2025 17:05 UTC

Your (and Craig's) argument mainly appears to rest on the premise that "sampling small parts of the output is equivalent to sampling a uniformly randomly generated number.'" However, if the initial target state is not $\langle 1 |$ and is perturbed, the initial state effectively becomes a non-unifor

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Mingyu Kang Oct 07 2025 16:26 UTC

Congrats on these nice results!
I was surprised to see that "fast 1 round" curve was below the "standard 3 rounds" curve, but then read that "For the fast scheme we simulate only a single round." Wouldn't simulating only a single round be unable to check the fault tolerance of the protocol?

Martin Ekerå Oct 07 2025 16:09 UTC

I stand by what I already wrote above, and I therefore see no reason to continue to spend time on this thread. Based on what I already wrote above and the arguments presented, I see no reason for why the algorithm would scale efficiently. I note that Craig also wrote that he ["thinks it's wrong"](h

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Q_cat_1729 Oct 07 2025 15:59 UTC

It seems that to acheive a lower number of T gates, a larger number of ancillae are needed. 

Q_cat_1729 Oct 07 2025 15:30 UTC

Your conclusion that the manuscript updates constitute an “acknowledgment” of your claims is unconvincing. The preprint v2 already stated:
"Although not presented here, we also considered factorization of larger integers (using $m_{\max} < n$) and found that our proposed modular approach works succ

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Gilad Gour Oct 07 2025 11:47 UTC

I just became aware of a significant overlap with arXiv:2403.14416
An updated version with proper references to related results will be posted soon.

Anirudh Krishna Oct 07 2025 10:57 UTC

Hi Tom, sorry for the late response. Yes, Nouédyn is right: As it stands, this paper is purely a bound on classical codes. With that said, it does capture certain types of unitary quantum logical gates.

It breaks down when generalizing to CZ and CCZ and the paper you linked to is a counter exampl

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Anirudh Krishna Oct 07 2025 10:46 UTC

banger

Martin Ekerå Oct 07 2025 08:34 UTC

No, my claim has not been refuted. You can see that it holds by analyzing the quantum algorithm mathematically, or by simulating it.

1. I note that after I first commented that one cannot pick the $m_i$ very small (for instance, fix them to $3$ or $4$, see also [this comment](https://www.reddit.com

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Nouédyn Baspin Oct 07 2025 07:57 UTC

Very useful feedback, and we'll add a mention to that paper, tysm :)

Guo Zhang Oct 07 2025 07:19 UTC

Congratulations on this interesting work!

I've noticed a small typo in your Definition 2, Equation (17): it seems $\gamma_1$ should be $\gamma_2$.

Additionally, Appendix C: ``Code surgery on qLDPC codes'' in arXiv:2505.06981 presents a generalization of Definition 2, which involves simultaneou

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Q_cat_1729 Oct 07 2025 05:17 UTC

@Victory Omole and @Craig Gidney -- You might want to check out authors' updated manuscript (v3, Oct 5, 2025). It includes an example of factoring a number \( N > 10^6 \) using a maximum of only \( m_{\text{max}} = 4 \) phase qubits per block. It shows that Craig's concern about samples from small b

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Q_cat_1729 Oct 07 2025 05:02 UTC

Your claim that the block size must satisfy $m_i > \log_2 r'$ is clearly wrong and has been refuted by the examples included in the updated manuscript (v3, 5 Oct 2025).

The authors successfully demonstrated factoring a number $N > 10^6$ with order $r=3800$ using only $m_{\max}=4$ phase qubits. Th

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Nouédyn Baspin Oct 07 2025 02:12 UTC

That's right, even for CSS codes things become non-trivial precisely because of the degeneracy from the stabilisers, and the CSS property doesn't really help with that. So you have to find another way around it, which I believe is something Ani is actively thinking about.

Tom Scruby Oct 07 2025 01:42 UTC

Oh, I see. Thanks for pointing this out. Is the translation to stabiliser codes more obvious if I only consider CSS codes? Naively I would expect that I can just consider each "half" of the code as a classical code on which CX acts analogously to classical CNOT, but maybe it is the equivalence of lo

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Dmitry Grinko Oct 06 2025 22:31 UTC

Hi Hari,

Thanks for the reply! I think I understand your confusion better now. You are correct in saying that
> It seems easier to just rotate and leave them in the original space.

This is precisely what we do :) We claim that we do not use any knowledge of the actual number $K_{\lambda,\mu}$

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Hari Krovi Oct 06 2025 20:22 UTC

Hi Dmitry,

Thanks very much for your comment. I’m still trying to understand this. It’s a little confusing because the vectors are first in a larger dimension (of $d_\lambda$). The isometry rotates them and essentially truncates the dimension to $K_{\lambda,\mu}$ but we still need to embed them in

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Nouédyn Baspin Oct 06 2025 15:16 UTC

The authors will probably have a more insightful answer, but I'd maybe highlight that the scope of this preprint is classical fault tolerance and classical linear codes (where CZ gates are not defined). And translating the machinery to stabilizer codes, say, is not immediately obvious.

Tom Scruby Oct 06 2025 07:41 UTC

Is there an easy way to understand why the intuition and arguments used in this work don't generalise to other types of entangling gates? For example (to my understanding) https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.05392 gives a construction of asymptotically good codes where CZ and CCZ gates **are** addressable in

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Nouédyn Baspin Oct 06 2025 05:36 UTC

banger